1 00:00:00,790 --> 00:00:07,320 [Music] 2 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:09,180 [Applause] 3 00:00:13,869 --> 00:00:11,570 hi everyone thank you guys for being 4 00:00:15,369 --> 00:00:13,879 here my name is Tia maka and today I'm 5 00:00:17,679 --> 00:00:15,379 going to talk to you about some of the 6 00:00:19,630 --> 00:00:17,689 work we've done concerning the role of 7 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:19,640 cyclic phosphates in non enzymatic 8 00:00:26,019 --> 00:00:22,130 ligation and just studying some general 9 00:00:28,540 --> 00:00:26,029 principles of non-enzymatic ligation so 10 00:00:30,730 --> 00:00:28,550 not to belabor the point but we all know 11 00:00:33,250 --> 00:00:30,740 that non enzymatic nucleic acid 12 00:00:34,689 --> 00:00:33,260 replication is a complex process and so 13 00:00:37,509 --> 00:00:34,699 there have been a lot of studies to try 14 00:00:40,060 --> 00:00:37,519 and understand this and from our point 15 00:00:42,490 --> 00:00:40,070 of view they're basically two ways in 16 00:00:44,910 --> 00:00:42,500 which people generally approach this so 17 00:00:46,900 --> 00:00:44,920 in one case you can look at 18 00:00:48,130 --> 00:00:46,910 polymerization of nucleotides so you 19 00:00:50,139 --> 00:00:48,140 have a template and you try and 20 00:00:52,090 --> 00:00:50,149 polymerize your different nucleotides on 21 00:00:53,860 --> 00:00:52,100 it but on the second hand if you can 22 00:00:55,779 --> 00:00:53,870 imagine that there were there was a 23 00:00:57,850 --> 00:00:55,789 template on the early earth then it's 24 00:01:00,099 --> 00:00:57,860 not too far to assume that it would also 25 00:01:01,930 --> 00:01:00,109 be shorter the good nucleotides and so 26 00:01:04,329 --> 00:01:01,940 the questions we're trying to answer is 27 00:01:06,130 --> 00:01:04,339 how do you like get the shorter leg of 28 00:01:09,940 --> 00:01:06,140 nucleotides once you've hybridized them 29 00:01:11,499 --> 00:01:09,950 together and so we before we started 30 00:01:12,850 --> 00:01:11,509 this work we looked into literature to 31 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:12,860 see some of the things that people had 32 00:01:18,490 --> 00:01:15,050 been doing because this problem dates 33 00:01:20,230 --> 00:01:18,500 back to decade old problems and so in 34 00:01:22,419 --> 00:01:20,240 general like I said earlier there would 35 00:01:24,910 --> 00:01:22,429 be a template and the idea is you're 36 00:01:29,230 --> 00:01:24,920 trying to like it won't be a sharp 37 00:01:31,059 --> 00:01:29,240 primer to your short strands one of the 38 00:01:32,499 --> 00:01:31,069 features of your ligo's of your of your 39 00:01:34,540 --> 00:01:32,509 primer is that you would have a 40 00:01:36,910 --> 00:01:34,550 phosphate and you would need to activate 41 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:36,920 this phosphate so people have done this 42 00:01:42,010 --> 00:01:39,410 by you can have an activated phosphate 43 00:01:44,139 --> 00:01:42,020 that you then include in your study in 44 00:01:46,690 --> 00:01:44,149 your application but you can also 45 00:01:48,729 --> 00:01:46,700 include condensing agents which can then 46 00:01:50,919 --> 00:01:48,739 activate your phosphate and you can get 47 00:01:53,290 --> 00:01:50,929 your new strands and some of the things 48 00:01:55,419 --> 00:01:53,300 we found about condensing agents in 49 00:01:57,669 --> 00:01:55,429 general was that even though this has 50 00:01:59,410 --> 00:01:57,679 been studied a lot in the past that did 51 00:02:02,380 --> 00:01:59,420 not seem to be a consensus on which 52 00:02:03,999 --> 00:02:02,390 condensing agents were superior so for 53 00:02:05,889 --> 00:02:04,009 instance we looked at a lot of studies 54 00:02:08,529 --> 00:02:05,899 with cyanogen bromide which has very 55 00:02:10,869 --> 00:02:08,539 fast ligation kinetics bots energy 56 00:02:12,580 --> 00:02:10,879 bromide is highly toxic and the fast 57 00:02:14,710 --> 00:02:12,590 reaction kinetics actually prevents you 58 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:14,720 from understanding the mechanisms on the 59 00:02:18,220 --> 00:02:16,010 other hand we looked at what else would 60 00:02:19,990 --> 00:02:18,230 work how would I image and we found that 61 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:20,000 it could take weeks and perhaps even 62 00:02:22,330 --> 00:02:21,410 months for you to get your maximum 63 00:02:24,220 --> 00:02:22,340 products 64 00:02:26,260 --> 00:02:24,230 which again is a bit hard to tease out 65 00:02:28,449 --> 00:02:26,270 the mechanisms involved with ligation 66 00:02:31,030 --> 00:02:28,459 and perhaps the most interesting thing 67 00:02:34,180 --> 00:02:31,040 that we found was that generally you had 68 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:34,190 lower youth for RNA ligation compared to 69 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:36,530 DNA ligation and this is interesting if 70 00:02:41,050 --> 00:02:38,290 you put it in a context of the RNA world 71 00:02:43,210 --> 00:02:41,060 and also and perhaps more interesting is 72 00:02:45,430 --> 00:02:43,220 that a lot of these so if you have an 73 00:02:47,410 --> 00:02:45,440 RNA or the connector oligonucleotide 74 00:02:49,270 --> 00:02:47,420 with the three prime phosphate it would 75 00:02:50,890 --> 00:02:49,280 form a cyclic phosphate which a lot of 76 00:02:52,750 --> 00:02:50,900 people believe to be an activated 77 00:02:54,910 --> 00:02:52,760 intermediate and so if you have this 78 00:02:56,410 --> 00:02:54,920 activated intermediate for the RNA or 79 00:02:58,180 --> 00:02:56,420 the GU nucleotide why don't you get 80 00:03:00,970 --> 00:02:58,190 higher yields compared to DNA Lagoon 81 00:03:02,590 --> 00:03:00,980 acute IDEs and so this brings us to the 82 00:03:05,410 --> 00:03:02,600 two questions are trying to answer in 83 00:03:08,979 --> 00:03:05,420 this study the first one is what 84 00:03:11,589 --> 00:03:08,989 parameters affect the efficacy of 85 00:03:16,690 --> 00:03:11,599 chemical ligation and the second one is 86 00:03:18,430 --> 00:03:16,700 how how relevant or how is the cyclic 87 00:03:20,229 --> 00:03:18,440 does your two prime three prime cyclic 88 00:03:23,710 --> 00:03:20,239 phosphate actually enhance the rate of a 89 00:03:25,809 --> 00:03:23,720 chemical equation and to do this this is 90 00:03:27,849 --> 00:03:25,819 our experimental design so we have a 91 00:03:30,069 --> 00:03:27,859 hairpin which we've optimized to be very 92 00:03:32,140 --> 00:03:30,079 stable and we're going to try and like 93 00:03:36,180 --> 00:03:32,150 get a shot a piece of illegal to the 94 00:03:38,470 --> 00:03:36,190 stem LIGO is a three prime phosphate and 95 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:38,480 generally we mix in our hairpin and our 96 00:03:43,809 --> 00:03:40,850 leaders together I'm after hybridization 97 00:03:46,569 --> 00:03:43,819 we add in a EDC so in this case we're 98 00:03:48,759 --> 00:03:46,579 using EDC what else in the book how 99 00:03:50,740 --> 00:03:48,769 would i omit as a condensing agent and 100 00:03:52,479 --> 00:03:50,750 after activation we incubate it for a 101 00:03:55,479 --> 00:03:52,489 period of time at different temperatures 102 00:03:57,750 --> 00:03:55,489 and reformed alligator products and we 103 00:04:00,160 --> 00:03:57,760 typically run our reactions on a gel 104 00:04:01,690 --> 00:04:00,170 because the hairpin is family bought and 105 00:04:06,819 --> 00:04:01,700 so that that allows us to see our 106 00:04:08,770 --> 00:04:06,829 products and so this is just an example 107 00:04:10,420 --> 00:04:08,780 of so in this study we're looking at the 108 00:04:14,530 --> 00:04:10,430 effect of the activated nucleotide on 109 00:04:17,229 --> 00:04:14,540 ligation so our hairpin is all DNA and 110 00:04:19,900 --> 00:04:17,239 most of the shot oligonucleotides so 111 00:04:22,690 --> 00:04:19,910 most of the nucleotides on this illegals 112 00:04:26,140 --> 00:04:22,700 are DNA except for the last one so the 113 00:04:28,840 --> 00:04:26,150 last nucleotide is either DNA RNA or a 2 114 00:04:32,290 --> 00:04:28,850 prime or methyl and the idea is that 115 00:04:34,690 --> 00:04:32,300 once we activate this with EDC the EDC 116 00:04:36,550 --> 00:04:34,700 attaches itself to the phosphate so 117 00:04:40,090 --> 00:04:36,560 creating a good leaving group for the 118 00:04:42,790 --> 00:04:40,100 legations to continue but in the case of 119 00:04:45,430 --> 00:04:42,800 the irony it forms a cyclic phosphate 120 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:45,440 and so again we're looking at the effect 121 00:04:50,950 --> 00:04:47,210 of this cyclic phosphate on enhancing 122 00:04:54,070 --> 00:04:50,960 ligation rates and so in this first 123 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:54,080 experiments what we do is study at 124 00:04:57,460 --> 00:04:55,730 different temperatures so this gel I'm 125 00:04:59,740 --> 00:04:57,470 showing you was taken after only two 126 00:05:01,240 --> 00:04:59,750 hours so at different temperatures what 127 00:05:04,150 --> 00:05:01,250 is the effect of having the different 128 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:04,160 nucleotides on that terminal end and so 129 00:05:09,370 --> 00:05:07,010 we see very quickly that for your DNA 130 00:05:11,230 --> 00:05:09,380 Liga nucleotides as you increase the 131 00:05:13,300 --> 00:05:11,240 temperature you increase the rate of the 132 00:05:15,250 --> 00:05:13,310 chemical reaction so this is kind of 133 00:05:17,590 --> 00:05:15,260 what we expected but you can see that 134 00:05:21,010 --> 00:05:17,600 after only two hours you're almost at 135 00:05:24,280 --> 00:05:21,020 80% of chemical ligation products formed 136 00:05:26,110 --> 00:05:24,290 after at tight temperatures you see that 137 00:05:27,910 --> 00:05:26,120 for the area nado even though we're from 138 00:05:30,790 --> 00:05:27,920 in a cyclic phosphate and so we verified 139 00:05:32,650 --> 00:05:30,800 this with HB s and lc/ms you don't get 140 00:05:34,570 --> 00:05:32,660 any products formed after two hours 141 00:05:38,170 --> 00:05:34,580 whereas you get a lot of products formed 142 00:05:40,450 --> 00:05:38,180 for the DNA but once you block that the 143 00:05:42,580 --> 00:05:40,460 two prime hydroxyl with an met with a 144 00:05:44,530 --> 00:05:42,590 methyl so not true prime or my field 145 00:05:46,060 --> 00:05:44,540 case you see that as you increase the 146 00:05:48,610 --> 00:05:46,070 temperature you get more products that 147 00:05:50,380 --> 00:05:48,620 are formed it's also interesting to note 148 00:05:53,110 --> 00:05:50,390 that at low temperatures so at four 149 00:05:55,180 --> 00:05:53,120 degrees Celsius you don't see a much of 150 00:05:57,130 --> 00:05:55,190 any products for mean and we think that 151 00:05:59,020 --> 00:05:57,140 but we think that this is because at 152 00:06:03,490 --> 00:05:59,030 this low temperatures the two prime or 153 00:06:05,620 --> 00:06:03,500 methyl is in it has steric hindrance 154 00:06:07,540 --> 00:06:05,630 that is preventing this ligation from 155 00:06:09,070 --> 00:06:07,550 going on and by his not the temperature 156 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:09,080 you can reduce the effect of the 157 00:06:15,070 --> 00:06:12,410 conformation and so we do this via a 158 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:15,080 widespread so we do higher temperatures 159 00:06:19,750 --> 00:06:17,810 but we also look at it for two hours and 160 00:06:22,210 --> 00:06:19,760 24 hours so the blocks represent two 161 00:06:24,820 --> 00:06:22,220 hours and the dash represent 24 hours 162 00:06:27,310 --> 00:06:24,830 and just generally you see that at high 163 00:06:29,470 --> 00:06:27,320 temperatures for the DNA and the two 164 00:06:31,750 --> 00:06:29,480 prime or methyl you get about the same 165 00:06:34,390 --> 00:06:31,760 rate of product or the same amount of 166 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:34,400 products that are formed immediately but 167 00:06:39,190 --> 00:06:36,770 like I showed you earlier and you might 168 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:39,200 have we shared it more here after two 169 00:06:44,620 --> 00:06:42,170 hours the DNA is almost at 60% at 25 170 00:06:47,290 --> 00:06:44,630 degrees Celsius but a 2 prime or methyl 171 00:06:48,140 --> 00:06:47,300 is only at 20% and so what this showed 172 00:06:49,820 --> 00:06:48,150 us was that 173 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:49,830 it's important to make sure your 174 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:51,570 reaction has gone into completion so if 175 00:06:55,670 --> 00:06:53,250 we had just looked at instantaneous 176 00:06:57,110 --> 00:06:55,680 rates you might think that DNA ligation 177 00:06:59,930 --> 00:06:57,120 was perhaps better than to promote 178 00:07:04,219 --> 00:06:59,940 methyl but that is very temperature and 179 00:07:05,930 --> 00:07:04,229 time dependence we also saw that again 180 00:07:07,610 --> 00:07:05,940 even after 24 hours of four degrees 181 00:07:11,060 --> 00:07:07,620 Celsius you don't get any products form 182 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:11,070 for the to prime or methyl but even on 183 00:07:15,530 --> 00:07:13,290 the best condition so 25 degrees after 184 00:07:17,990 --> 00:07:15,540 24 hours you barely see any irony on 185 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:18,000 ligation going on now we're not saying 186 00:07:21,740 --> 00:07:19,770 that you don't get you can get some 187 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:21,750 products formed if you increase the 188 00:07:25,730 --> 00:07:23,130 amount of excess oligonucleotides that 189 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:25,740 you have so in this experiment we had 190 00:07:29,570 --> 00:07:27,690 only 1.5 excess of Olli goes to the 191 00:07:31,370 --> 00:07:29,580 template but if you increase it to say 192 00:07:33,170 --> 00:07:31,380 20 times if you saturate the amount of 193 00:07:35,300 --> 00:07:33,180 illegals that are present then you can 194 00:07:37,100 --> 00:07:35,310 see some ligation happening if you also 195 00:07:38,990 --> 00:07:37,110 increase the pH of the reaction you can 196 00:07:40,730 --> 00:07:39,000 get some products formed but in both 197 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:40,740 those cases the maximum product that you 198 00:07:45,500 --> 00:07:43,770 get is only about 20% whereas are not 199 00:07:48,230 --> 00:07:45,510 best conditions for DNA are to promote 200 00:07:52,129 --> 00:07:48,240 methyl you get up to 80 90 percent on 201 00:07:54,290 --> 00:07:52,139 the product formation and so haven't 202 00:07:56,990 --> 00:07:54,300 picked the best conformation so we know 203 00:07:59,960 --> 00:07:57,000 we want to use the DNA oligonucleotide 204 00:08:01,490 --> 00:07:59,970 primer to do a ligation we decided to 205 00:08:04,159 --> 00:08:01,500 look at the effect of sequences so this 206 00:08:05,750 --> 00:08:04,169 has been done before but in our case we 207 00:08:08,330 --> 00:08:05,760 believe that we had optimized all the 208 00:08:09,770 --> 00:08:08,340 possible and problems and so we wanted 209 00:08:12,110 --> 00:08:09,780 to see if they would have any effect on 210 00:08:14,629 --> 00:08:12,120 our ligation reactions and the things we 211 00:08:16,670 --> 00:08:14,639 pay attention to here is that this - or 212 00:08:19,730 --> 00:08:16,680 this line represents the nick of the 213 00:08:21,529 --> 00:08:19,740 ligation and so in this first gel again 214 00:08:23,570 --> 00:08:21,539 this experiment was done after only two 215 00:08:26,719 --> 00:08:23,580 hours but in this first job we're 216 00:08:28,969 --> 00:08:26,729 looking at the GG being opposite the 217 00:08:31,339 --> 00:08:28,979 ligation Nick versus being at the 218 00:08:33,589 --> 00:08:31,349 ligation Nick and again we look at it at 219 00:08:35,899 --> 00:08:33,599 different temperatures and you see that 220 00:08:39,170 --> 00:08:35,909 when you're GG so when you have periods 221 00:08:41,269 --> 00:08:39,180 at opposite the ligation Nick you see a 222 00:08:43,070 --> 00:08:41,279 really fast increase in the amount of 223 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:43,080 products that you get when you increase 224 00:08:47,980 --> 00:08:46,170 the temperature but when you have the GG 225 00:08:50,540 --> 00:08:47,990 stocking at the nick of the ligation 226 00:08:53,470 --> 00:08:50,550 then you see a decrease in the amount of 227 00:08:55,490 --> 00:08:53,480 products that are formed as you increase 228 00:08:57,680 --> 00:08:55,500 initially so at 4 degrees Celsius 229 00:08:58,880 --> 00:08:57,690 there's barely any product forming but 230 00:09:00,809 --> 00:08:58,890 as you increase the temperature then you 231 00:09:02,309 --> 00:09:00,819 can increase the reaction rate 232 00:09:05,039 --> 00:09:02,319 and so again like we signed the case of 233 00:09:07,949 --> 00:09:05,049 the two primal metal there seems to be a 234 00:09:09,900 --> 00:09:07,959 difference that there seems to be some 235 00:09:13,289 --> 00:09:09,910 effect of stacking on our ligation rates 236 00:09:15,719 --> 00:09:13,299 and so we do this some experiments at 237 00:09:18,299 --> 00:09:15,729 different times so two hours and 24 238 00:09:20,549 --> 00:09:18,309 hours studies and we also do we also 239 00:09:23,369 --> 00:09:20,559 scramble the positions of the GS and the 240 00:09:25,139 --> 00:09:23,379 C's and you see that generally at high 241 00:09:28,619 --> 00:09:25,149 temperatures that doesn't seem to be any 242 00:09:31,109 --> 00:09:28,629 effect on the sequences location but 243 00:09:33,809 --> 00:09:31,119 after 24 hours when you have your stack 244 00:09:35,969 --> 00:09:33,819 in at the nick of ligation there's it 245 00:09:37,619 --> 00:09:35,979 really decreases the amount of products 246 00:09:40,919 --> 00:09:37,629 that you get compared to any have you're 247 00:09:42,539 --> 00:09:40,929 stacking opposite the ligation Nick and 248 00:09:46,019 --> 00:09:42,549 so we decided to look at whether this 249 00:09:47,759 --> 00:09:46,029 was just a feature of the GG base 250 00:09:49,979 --> 00:09:47,769 pairing system where this could also be 251 00:09:52,529 --> 00:09:49,989 applied if we had an 80 base pairing 252 00:09:55,229 --> 00:09:52,539 system so we kept almost everything the 253 00:09:57,359 --> 00:09:55,239 same but now instead of CG closing base 254 00:09:59,669 --> 00:09:57,369 pairs we looked at 80 closing base pairs 255 00:10:02,699 --> 00:09:59,679 and you see about the same effect that 256 00:10:04,109 --> 00:10:02,709 we observed so in this first bar when 257 00:10:06,509 --> 00:10:04,119 you have your purines so you're a a 258 00:10:08,129 --> 00:10:06,519 stock opposite ligation Nick you say 259 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:08,139 really fast increase in the 260 00:10:12,629 --> 00:10:10,689 instantaneous rate and it approaches 261 00:10:15,119 --> 00:10:12,639 maximum but when you have your puing 262 00:10:16,739 --> 00:10:15,129 stocking at the nick of ligation then 263 00:10:18,899 --> 00:10:16,749 you see a decrease in the amount of 264 00:10:20,729 --> 00:10:18,909 products that are formed and again as 265 00:10:22,409 --> 00:10:20,739 you increase the temperature you allow 266 00:10:24,439 --> 00:10:22,419 it attained more confirmation and you 267 00:10:26,909 --> 00:10:24,449 can get more products that are formed 268 00:10:29,579 --> 00:10:26,919 answering conclusion from just a general 269 00:10:31,199 --> 00:10:29,589 nucleic acid standpoint we see that 270 00:10:33,869 --> 00:10:31,209 their multiple factors that can affect 271 00:10:35,609 --> 00:10:33,879 non-enzymatic ligation one of the first 272 00:10:37,439 --> 00:10:35,619 ones we looked at is just the effect of 273 00:10:39,899 --> 00:10:37,449 the sugar so having a 2 prime hydroxyl 274 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:39,909 versus an O methyl on your 275 00:10:45,799 --> 00:10:42,850 oligonucleotides we also saw that base 276 00:10:48,569 --> 00:10:45,809 flanking so the position of the purines 277 00:10:50,159 --> 00:10:48,579 really affected how fast your reaction 278 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:50,169 weren't especially at low temperatures 279 00:10:55,409 --> 00:10:52,569 and from just an irony award for 280 00:10:57,210 --> 00:10:55,419 spective we saw our data showed that the 281 00:10:59,909 --> 00:10:57,220 super imperium cyclic phosphate is 282 00:11:01,919 --> 00:10:59,919 perhaps not an activated intermediate in 283 00:11:04,710 --> 00:11:01,929 template director type ligation 284 00:11:06,299 --> 00:11:04,720 reactions and with this I'd like to 285 00:11:08,219 --> 00:11:06,309 thank NASA and a cell phone in the 286 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:08,229 center my group members are my